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All Things Fiero => General Fiero Discussion => Topic started by: Fierofool on April 28, 2014, 04:02:00 pm

Title: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on April 28, 2014, 04:02:00 pm

You all know about the 88 Formula and GT that  former Georgia Fieros member Mike Barr has donated to Georgia Fieros, but here's a little background on them.

The Formula originally belonged to and was built by Dave Bellville, who was also a former Georgia Fieros member.  It has a 2.8 bored 40 over, a high lift cam and a Borla Exhaust System.  Five-speed Getrag.

The GT has belonged to Mike Barr for some time and has been his Fiero pride.  Dickman lowering ball joints and Eibach lowering springs.  Automatic. 

Both have been sitting for 3 or 4 years and the elements haven't been kind to them.  The GT is planned to go to a deserving person in need of transportation.  The future of the Formula hasn't been decided, though a few have expressed interest in purchasing it.  Here are a few pictures of the two.








The Formula after a wash job. We may have to up the ante on this one after it's cleaned up.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Robs Fieros on April 30, 2014, 06:02:37 pm

That's a sharp looking Fiero.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Raydar on April 30, 2014, 09:09:57 pm

I remember Dave's car. I believe he described it as a 3.4 (home-made from a bored and stroked 2.8, IIRC.)
It's the first time I ever heard a cammed 3.4 through, an Ocelot exhaust. Lust at first sight. Uhhh... sound.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: ron768 on May 02, 2014, 09:35:41 pm

I am looking forward to working on both of these.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on May 20, 2014, 08:11:17 am

I'm starting a new thread for the 88GT Wounded Warrior Project car.  There's lots of info I want to convey and I think the GT and Formula will go in different directions and at different time frames.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on May 20, 2014, 03:45:59 pm

Ray and I worked on the Formula for a little while yesterday afternoon.  Got the ignition components bolted down and leaves cleaned off the engine.  We had to fill and bleed the clutch system since there was no fluid in the reservoir. 

After the clutch, we placed it in 4th gear and pushed it forward a little at a time to get the engine to rotate and see if there was any resistance.  None, and it seemed fine.

We then put jumpers on and gave the throttle body a few spritzes of carb and brake cleaner.  It took a half dozen or so attempts, but we finally got the engine to fire off.  It would only run if cleaner was being sprayed into the throttle body.  I'm guessing that the fuel pump needs to be replaced, but it sounded good for the 5-10 seconds I could keep it running. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on May 12, 2015, 01:22:04 pm

The tail lights on the Formula are badly delaminated.  I bought the ones from the gold 86 at Lance Wrecker.  They have a little delamination and the right one has a crack, but they're better than what's on the car.  I didn't realize it was cracked until they delivered them to me, yesterday afternoon. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: f85gtron on May 21, 2015, 07:23:32 am

The problem is......If you do too much work to the formula, then you'll drive it out of my price range ;)
Am I correct in wondering where the notchback-ness of it has gone?

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on May 21, 2015, 08:24:53 am

I don't think the price has gone up.  The tail lights are ones I bought off the 86 GT that I recently posted about.  The money came from my pocket and was donated to the car. 

I do think there are some things on the Formula that need to be changed.  The fiberglass quarter window replacements create a big blind spot, even though the air intake in it might help to pull hot air from the engine bay.  The big A-10 Warthog air intake on the side needs to be removed, too. 

I don't know when this one was converted to the fastback, but it may have even preceded Raydar's conversion.  Personally, I think active club members should have first shot at the car at a lower price and if no one wants it, then the price goes up for any one outside the club. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Raydar on May 21, 2015, 12:37:40 pm

This one predates my conversion by probably 5 years.
It was at least a partial inspiration.
It was also when I discovered how good a fat cam, no cat, and an Ocelot exhaust sounded. Have you heard it run, yet?

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on May 21, 2015, 02:34:49 pm

We've only had it running long enough to know that it runs.  Carb or brake cleaner down the intake.  The fuel pump is bad. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on August 26, 2015, 11:53:35 pm

OK, the GT has been delivered and we still have the Fastback Formula.  General consensus is that we sell the car. 

Roger and I recently installed a new fuel pump so it would run on it's own.  These are the things I know it needs at the moment.

The tilt column needs to be replaced.  It feels like it's held together with cable ties.  Maybe Slowburn57 has one in his collection.
The battery is absolutely totally dead.  I killed my truck battery and had to buy a new one from jumping and running the car off the truck.
Does anyone have a good used battery to sell to the club, or I can go to a manufacturer here in Winder and pick up one for about $70. 
The car has a skip.  Could be anything from a stuck injector to bad plugs or wires. 

Let's discuss this at the September club meeting.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: oldone on August 27, 2015, 01:18:56 am

have you decided what the active member lower price is?

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on August 27, 2015, 08:26:46 am

That's probably something we need to determine at the meeting, too.  I think we at least need to be sure the engine runs good before setting a price and selling it.  I wouldn't want to sell it with a bad engine. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: slowburn57 on August 27, 2015, 10:48:49 am

Sorry guy don't have a steering column.

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: TopNotch on August 27, 2015, 03:17:13 pm

Charlie, remember what I showed you on my yellow car steering column? Well, according to what I have studied, that is because of some loose bolts way down in there, and it can be repaired. If that one is the same way, maybe it can be repaired. See this page (http://www.fieros.de/en/articles/steering.html).

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on October 18, 2016, 06:17:40 pm

I've been working on the Formula Fastback a little, today.  Cleaned the leaves out of the engine bay and cleaned the engine and bay a little.  As I've occasionally run it around the subdivision to keep things freed up, it has developed a check engine code.  A scan today indicated a bad Coolant Temperature Sensor.  Also, from the beginning, the clutch reservoir was empty.  We refilled it, but not bleed the system.  The clutch has to be pumped before it will disengage, and any long drive around the subdivision requires pumping before coming to any of the 4 stop signs I would encounter.  After bleeding, if the symptoms continue, it will probably need a slave cylinder. 

Board of Directors:  I would like permission to purchase a CTS at a minimum, and if needed, a clutch slave or master cylinder, as needed.  Your choice of vendor. 

The car also needs the steering column tightened.  Anyone volunteer to do that job?  Since it's for the club, we can't pay you.  We need to get this vehicle moving in order to make time and room for the other Formula we're about to take possession of. 

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: GrannyLinda on October 19, 2016, 08:52:17 am

Board of Directors:  I would like permission to purchase a CTS at a minimum, and if needed, a clutch slave or master cylinder, as needed.  Your choice of vendor.

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Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Fierofool on October 28, 2016, 11:30:26 am

Anyone else or is this a dead subject?

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: oldone on October 28, 2016, 12:17:38 pm

go for it !

Title: Re: 88 Charity Project Cars
Post by: Roger on October 28, 2016, 10:32:31 pm

I vote for it.

That's a Cadillac CTS, right?

I can help with the steering column.  Let me get some things done in my time management situation first.  I forsee time in the near future (week).