Georgia Fiero Club Forum
All Things Fiero => Club News => Topic started by: GTXVette on May 30, 2018, 06:31:19 am
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6:30am heading for Northlake in a Few Min. see ya soon!
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Roger and I should be there about 10.
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So, how'd it go?
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John got the broken stud out of the head. Roger and I installed the clutch kit. Dave surprised us with his presence and set up the new Rodney transmission brackets and he and Roger installed the new transmission mounts to the cradle. We discovered that the clutch release arm needs a case bushing replaced before it goes together. Axle seals can be installed afterward.
All of us worked on DeShoe's car, getting the new Ocelot Exhaust installed, everything but the megaphone tips. We kept maneuvering the system to try to get both tips balanced in their openings. Dave discovered that they had been marked incorrectly when he swapped sides with them. Dave was the lead on the exhaust work, especially springs and hangers, having just dropped and reinstalled his transmission. Everyone was so busy that I don't think there were any pictures taken. Roger, Dave and I pulled out just shy of 5PM.
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I didn't realize that DeShoe's Fiero was in need of work. Sounds as if Dave's got the skillz.
While we're on axle seals, I was told that they're unnecessary. One of mine is missing. I have a set of new seals, but inquiring minds want to know.
It sounds as if a good time was had by all.
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Excellent! Good show!
Are the manifolds mounted yet? Engine on the cradle? (Sounds like not, but that's okay.)
I'll be up there Saturday AM. Please let me know what time. (Y'all mentioned 10, today. That works fine for me. Or I can shoot for earlier, as I mentioned in the other thread. Either way.)
MikeMac. Unrelated...
My friend at work needs a front wheel bearing on his Tundra. 2WD. Said he was going to call you this week.
Also, I need a timing belt (and probably a transmission service) on an '09 Honda Odyssey van. In case I forget to mention it on Sat., please remind me if you think of it.
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GTRS, seals are necessary else the fluid will leak out and water and debris can enter the transmission. DeShoe's car has been at the shop for several weeks. Got new ball joints and tie rod ends and an alignment, I believe. Died on the way home and it was diagnosed as having a plugged exhaust system. It got a complete Ocelot system, today.
Steve, about all we can do is to get the manifolds on and the AC, alternator, etc. The engine is on the cradle, held by the front mount.
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Must be a manual. IIRC, the axles on the automatic just snap in. I was thinking of the seals that go against the wheel bearings. Those shouldn't allow transmission fluid to leak out.
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Do seals now or later after you clean up the oil that leaked out. as the World Turns, so do the gears and they make internal pressure and sling oil with great force. the splines aren't cut that close in tolerence and the loc ring won't stop oil.
you may live a better than I.
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Do seals now or later after you clean up the oil that leaked out. as the World Turns, so do the gears and they make internal pressure and sling oil with great force. the splines aren't cut that close in tolerence and the loc ring won't stop oil.
you may live a better than I.
I think he meant the seals on the back of the knuckles. Not the tranny seals.
FWIW, I still think they need to be there, to keep crud out of the backs of the bearings.
Looking forward to Saturday. I know that everyone is anxious to get the AeroDon car back on the road.
Good thing that Mike has an alignment rack. He'll need it.
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I just read this thread. I didnt realize that all you guys attacked my car to get the exhaust back on. I was out of town for a week and just got back and was doing catch up on the message board. Hopefully I can get the car back on the road and to a point that I can join you all in some of the rallys. Thanks again to Mike and all that helped
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MichaelG, if you still have the knuckle swung away from the axle, visually inspect it to see if the edges of the seal are damaged. If they aren't, pack the cavity with grease and reinstall the axle. The seals are necessary to keep crud from getting inside the knuckle and eventually, the hub bearings. Because there's a lip on the CV joint that runs inside the cavity of that seal, I expect that it also helps to protect the CV joint in some way. If you decide or need to replace them, see my Hub Replacement writeup, especially regarding the torquing steps for the axle nut.
Bob, we got to a point that we couldn't go any further on the AeroDonamic car and we still had some time and energy left. Michael has to do all Fiero work when he can find a moment among other things. We just wanted to help both of you.
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I want to thank you all for helping Mike and myself in helping get the car back on the road and not alongside the road. Mike does a lot for the club and its good to see that we are making a effort to repay him for the use of his shop and equiptment.
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The seal was damaged, but I have new seals, and new hub bearings.
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I want to thank you all for helping Mike and myself in helping get the car back on the road and not alongside the road. Mike does a lot for the club and its good to see that we are making a effort to repay him for the use of his shop and equiptment.
It's great to be part of a club that does so much for each other.
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It isn't worth it for you guys to drive in to Atlanta just to put on exhaust manifolds. I have to order the bushings from The Fiero Store before we can move on putting in the transmission. It's up to you guys though. I can't get here till noon on Saturday if that changes anything.
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Excellent! Good show!
Are the manifolds mounted yet? Engine on the cradle? (Sounds like not, but that's okay.)
I'll be up there Saturday AM. Please let me know what time. (Y'all mentioned 10, today. That works fine for me. Or I can shoot for earlier, as I mentioned in the other thread. Either way.)
MikeMac. Unrelated...
My friend at work needs a front wheel bearing on his Tundra. 2WD. Said he was going to call you this week.
Also, I need a timing belt (and probably a transmission service) on an '09 Honda Odyssey van. In case I forget to mention it on Sat., please remind me if you think of it.
Your friend called and let a message about his Tundra. I've tried calling him back over the last few days and his mailbox is full. Thanks for the referral.
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Maybe we can take a look at Fan's car with the 3800SC? What do you think Raydar and Roger? You guys are the electrical engineers.
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We can do that.
I'll bring my scanner and a voltmeter. Hope we can find the ALDL/OBD2.
So... Around noon? Guess that's up to Mike. I'm good for... whenever.
If Mike has to order bushings, we're not going to get the cradle installed in the AeroDon car. We can probably make some progress, though.
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Hey, Roger was just over and we were talking about this. Instead of hitting 2 Saturdays in a row, how about we just do it after the club meeting. I'll see if I can get Fan there with us to give us some history.
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That's fine. Actually works better for me. I sort of over-extended myself for this weekend. That will help.
So, we're doing nothing tomorrow. Correct?
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Your friend called and let a message about his Tundra. I've tried calling him back over the last few days and his mailbox is full. Thanks for the referral.
I should see him, here, in less than an hour. I'll tell him. Thanks!
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Phan, Fan?, the ecm in the car is incorrect. we need one from the correct engine type that is a 3800 but I didn't look to see what Year eng. managment. we need.
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As long as it is programmed to run a 3800SC, and the harness is built correctly, it should be okay.
Lots of swappers mix/match PCMs and engines. Just because it's a 2001(?) Pontiac(?) engine, it doesn't require that the PCM be a 2001 Pontiac piece, as long as the program and wiring have been done to accommodate.
Doesn't make it easy to troubleshoot, however. It helps if the swap was documented, which I'm pretty sure this one wasn't.
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What I think I saw was a 3.4 v6 ecm. I think it was for a 60 deg. not a 90 deg engine. car type is painted on the ecm though.
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A 3.4 PCM in a 3800?
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What I think I saw was a 3.4 v6 ecm. I think it was for a 60 deg. not a 90 deg engine. car type is painted on the ecm though.
Holy crap! No wonder he's having issues. Never heard of THAT. Was it an old (OBD1 type) ECM?
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like I said the model of car was painted on the ECM case ,
there are some cars that had a 3.4 and a 3800 offered in the same Line a 60 and a 90 deg. so I could be wrong.
insert the same cars also may have 2.8 and 3.1 engines .but they are 60 degree engines. so Mike if you get a minite it can be seen through the driver window.
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Hey, Roger was just over and we were talking about this. Instead of hitting 2 Saturdays in a row, how about we just do it after the club meeting. I'll see if I can get Fan there with us to give us some history.
I'll be out of town this weekend. I would have sworn it was the following weekend. Of course you guys are welcome to work on any of the cars but you will be out in the sun unless someone has a canopy.