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Title: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 16, 2018, 08:46:27 pm
Over the last few months, packages from Amazon have been failing to arrive.  Tonight, I called to get some answers.  A package ordered in January was declared lost.  Several from February have gone everywhere but here.  One was "delivered" in WA, but sent to VA.  I am not in either state.  Another went to Australia.  I'm not there, either.

One went to Texas, where is was "delivered".  Apparently, there was a mix-up with another buyer.  Amazon offered to send me the product the other person ordered, but they wouldn't tell me what the product is, except that it isn't the same thing.  Why would I want that?  This has happened several times.

2 items went to the seller, rather than the buyer.  Apparently, Amazon is a distributor, and stocks a bunch of product.  So, they sent it back to the seller, or whomever made the product.

Amazon is going to call the post office to see about some other items.  I wish them luck.  USPS has no idea where anything is.  If you call the local post office, they direct you to one distribution center after another.  You have to wait while they dawdle, then for an endless series of supervisors.  Then they have to call every single delivery driver to ask if the driver has seen a package.  Yep, they sure have.  There are apparently whole buildings of packages they haven't delivered, because you always have to wait for them to "go check another building".  As soon as they hang up, they apparently take a 2-week vacation, leaving no record of this conversation, because nothing happens for 2 weeks, and when you finally get back to them 2 weeks later, you have to start over.  Apparently, only one person handles these issues.  Usually, the package is discovered carelessly tossed out of the way somewhere.  And USPS wonders why people don't want to use them.

A product I ordered on 3/10, for delivery on 3/13 still hasn't shipped.

I really don't know where to start.  Computers will eventually replace all postal workers, but I used to think that was a bad thing.  Trying to get a computer to rectify a mistake is an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: Raydar on March 16, 2018, 10:56:23 pm
Hope I'm not jinxing myself, here, but Amazon's delivery record to me is exemplary. Occasionally a day late, but not frequently.

Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 16, 2018, 11:10:36 pm
Good to hear.  Maybe it's my area.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: TopNotch on March 16, 2018, 11:13:42 pm
Good to hear.  Maybe it's my area.
Must be. Both Granny Linda and I get good service from Amazon.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 16, 2018, 11:37:54 pm
An Amazon warehouse is across the street from our post office.  There are 3 other nearby warehouses that they use.  These things are huge.  ~8 seconds to drive by at 70MPH.  Not that far back.  Some have a second storey.  They were all built on the floodplain within the last 2 years...after the previous people had been flooded out several times.  Amazon made the channels several feet deeper.  Unfortunately, the buildings would still get 10-16 feet of water.

The one across from the post office is small, about 600,000 square feet, at a guess.  It's not completely operational.  It's in a bad location, because the road is divided.  Ingress and egress is constricted, and the traffic light is very short.  So, it can only be approached from the South, and exit is on the same lane, going North.  Getting back onto the highway is difficult.  We recommended a nearby site that had better access, but Amazon refused.  Amazon plans to have land seized via eminent domain to change things to suit themselves, but this would affect people's homes and lives.  As things sit, trucks are driving through residential neighborhoods and over a bridge only rated for 15 tons.  They're destroying the roads.  But, this is the only easy way to get back on the highway.  The other interchange was just completed before Amazon moved in, but they realized that they made things worse before it was completed.  In fact, they wouldn't have completed work, but the money was already spent.

Apparently, one of my orders came from a local warehouse.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 17, 2018, 01:14:40 pm
According to Amazon, one of my packages is out for delivery...in Houston.  I do not, and have never lived in Houston.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: TopNotch on March 17, 2018, 05:15:13 pm
Just wondering... Are you a member of Amazon Prime?
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: Raydar on March 17, 2018, 05:44:38 pm
We are.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 17, 2018, 05:59:04 pm
I was.  That was a waste of money.  When Instant Video was the problem, they said that Prime was about shipping; when shipping was the problem, they said Prime was about Instant Video.  It was a constant litany of excuses.  I finally started wondering what I was paying for.  After I cancelled, the only difference I noticed was that some products aren't available to me, and I have to pay for 2-day shipping.  In reality, I always get my shipping refunded, because they don't deliver until weeks late.  That was the case with Prime, as well.  The movie selection on Amazon was limited, so no loss, there.  They didn't even have full seasons of shows.  What good is 5 episodes of JAG?  It's like the TV and radio stations.  It doesn't matter how many there are, if you're not interested in what they have.

Back to shipping delays.  We ordered some items.  2 weeks later, still not shipped.  I drove up to Michigan and bought what I wanted...in 2016.  Those items still haven't arrived at my office.  Those were ordered on the business Prime account.  We got our money, but the products are sitting somewhere.  One of my techs has Prime, and also is having issues with shipping, although he lives more than an hour away.  On our business Prime account, we ordered 2 Surface Pro tablets.  After a few months of them not being shipped, we got our refund, then went and purchased locally.  I can't tell you how often I've ordered something that was "in stock" only to have them tell me weeks later that it wasn't.  Part of the problem is that their system truncates addresses.

I used to be a courier, and dispatch would send me to a particular address, city, and ZIP.  When they got the city and ZIP wrong, I'd end up in the wrong place. Sometimes, several cities share a ZIPCODE.  I have several friends who can't get mail, because their addresses won't fit.  The GPS can't find them, either.

Invoicing is terrible.  If you order 50 items, say, you get a total.  Then, they split everything up, and the charges to your card are all sorts of amounts.  Trying to sort it out takes forever.  When the stuff arrives, often you get random products.  My favorite is products, like 3D printers, that are bad.  Amazon passes the buck.  We had to dispute the charges.  It was $25K.  They said they'd come get the printers.  I won't hold my breath.

I'm not sure why I should pay to get basic service, that they still can't provide.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 05, 2018, 07:51:55 am
On Friday (3/30), Amazon "overnighted" me a replacement item, to replace a lost item.  As of 4/3, the replacement item is in "carrier delay".  I think this makes my point about Prime.  The difference is, if I don't pay for Prime, Amazon pays a penalty for late deliveries, and my shipping is free.  When items are late with Prime, it's just too bad.

Amazon says to check back in a few days, and they'll help me out.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: pgackerman on April 05, 2018, 09:14:58 am


Where do you live?

Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GrannyLinda on April 05, 2018, 10:39:30 am
Are Any Of Your Neighbors Having Problems With People Stealing Packages From There Homes ?

On Friday (3/30), Amazon "overnighted" me a replacement item, to replace a lost item.  As of 4/3, the replacement item is in "carrier delay".  I think this makes my point about Prime.  The difference is, if I don't pay for Prime, Amazon pays a penalty for late deliveries, and my shipping is free.  When items are late with Prime, it's just too bad.

Amazon says to check back in a few days, and they'll help me out.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 05, 2018, 07:06:33 pm
Where do you live?

In the gateway city.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 05, 2018, 07:08:20 pm
Are Any Of Your Neighbors Having Problems With People Stealing Packages From There Homes ?

No.  That is not a problem here, but the package hasn't been delivered anywhere.  At least it left Amazon.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: pgackerman on April 05, 2018, 09:35:05 pm
Where do you live?

In the gateway city.

Which gateway city? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Cities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Cities)  LA?  Boston?  St Louie?
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 05, 2018, 09:37:49 pm
St. Louis.  Don't make it worse than it is.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: pgackerman on April 06, 2018, 07:54:36 am

A friend of mine was recently in that area.  To bug him I looked up Fieros on c-list and found a beautiful black 3.1L turbo with side air scoops about the level of the notch.  Told him to check it out.  Description said digital dash, but there weren't any interior photos.  Asked less than $5K. 

Do you know the car? 
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 06, 2018, 08:16:09 am
No, and didn't find it on c-list with a quick search.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: pgackerman on April 06, 2018, 09:01:28 am

Looks like it's gone. 
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: f85gtron on April 09, 2018, 05:15:19 am
Hmm. Could be worse. Could be EAST St. Louis.
And yes, I'm bugged AND miffed. Also, NOT happy with the ice and snow. NOT COOL! Froze my butt off!  What kind of spring break was that?! 
Is the arch back open yet?
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: TopNotch on April 09, 2018, 07:46:59 am
Two Amazon orders arrived yesterday (yes, Sunday). One for me, and one for Linda. They've always been very reliable here.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 09, 2018, 08:08:14 am
No idea about the Arch.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 21, 2018, 10:24:19 am
One of the nice things about brick-and-mortar stores is that I can grab an item, pay for it, and then have it.  With Amazon, I can't grab an item, and paying for a product only means that I have spent money.  Now Amazon can't find the product.  They claim it was shipped, but never paid for shipment, and have no shipping info.  According to Amazon's tracking, the shipment was lost in transit.  They "sent" a replacement, supposedly certified overnight.  I always thought there was a receipt that you got for certified mail.  Amazon says no.  Not for business certified.  Amazon "sent" a second replacement, then cancelled the order, because they can't find it to send.  I requested a refund.  Now, Amazon says I must wait for all 3 to be resolved.  They want USPS to take care of all 3.  USPS refuses, saying Amazon must provide info.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on May 07, 2018, 06:25:24 pm
Last night, I purchased a product on ebay.  Today, I got a notice from Amazon that the product had shipped.  I'm not sure how that is possible.  The item shows in my purchased things on ebay, but not on amazon.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 18, 2018, 07:18:12 pm
I odered a product from amazon on 5/22, with 2-3 day shipping.  Tracking shows that it was shipped on 6/8 from NY, arrived at the local post office on 6/11, where they cannot find it.  USPS says they'll deliver the item on time on 6/14.  I told them it was 6/18, but that didn't register, so I told them 6/14 already passed.  They said "Well, that doesn't give us much time."  Then they proceded to tell me not to worry, it'll be here on time, it's probably on the mail truck.  Not on the mail truck, but asking surely insulted the mail carrier.  USPS says Ixl get it if and when I get it.  Gee, great attitude.

So, I called amazon.  Must wait until the end of the month to do anything, according to them.  Wrong answer.  I suspect this will be free.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 07, 2019, 12:18:55 pm
Ordered on 3/30, due by 4/4.  Sold by amazon.com services, inc, fulfilled by amazon.com services, inc.  Still has not arrived.  According to tracking, it hasn't shipped.  Sad sack.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: PK on April 07, 2019, 01:09:13 pm
Your eBay item delivered by Amazon could be that the eBay seller did not stock the item but instead just ordered it from a third party on Amazon and specified delivery to you.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 07, 2019, 01:25:02 pm
Could be, but the online retailers are going down the tubes, IMHO.  Unfortunately, brick-and-mortar stores are often terrible, also.  I patronize the mom-and-pop stores, but the big chains have useless people as employees.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 20, 2019, 12:23:59 am
Amazon packages have been being delivered regularly, lately.  I cannot claim that this is Amazon's fault.  These packages do not have my name or address.  17 packages, as of today.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: Fierofool on June 20, 2019, 08:25:45 am
The delivery drone's GPS needs to "RECALCULATE".  :)

On the bright side, the law says that if a product is delivered to you and you didn't order it, you notify the originator to pick it up and they don't, it's yours for free.

I had that happen to me in Massachusetts.  We received a complete set of encyclopedias with bookcase.  It was something that came about when our name was published in the New Birth section of the newspaper.  Then they sent us a bill.  Told them I was keeping them and not paying if they didn't pick it up.  Before computers, it was snail mail but eventually, they had the stuff picked up at our home when they couldn't produce any proof we ordered it.   
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 20, 2019, 06:20:49 pm
I spoke with the delivery driver.  He only gets paid if he delivers, so he delivers.  I have no idea what these products are.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: TopNotch on June 20, 2019, 08:20:26 pm
I got some things from Amazon that I didn't order (useless cheap things), and wasn't charged for them either. I contacted Amazon, and they said that independent sellers that sell through them will do that and then post fake reviews in the name of the person the item was shipped to. The will shut down any sellers that do that if you inform them.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on June 20, 2019, 09:30:22 pm
I'd settle for getting the things I DO order.  I recently ordered a fan.  It eventually showed delivered, but not shipped.  Apparently, the fan is now on back order.  The seller's rating goes down, if they don't get the product delivered.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on August 15, 2019, 07:08:31 pm
I ordered 2 of a particular item.  More than 1, but certainly the workers should be able to count to 2.  Or not.  I got 1 of the item.  I called Amazon.  Their reply was that 1 was enough.  Well, they had no problem taking my money for 2, but by their reasoning, Bezos has enough money.  All Amazon orders should be free.  They did not like their own logic.

They next tried to blame the shipper for not delivering both items.  That logic did not work, either, because only 1 box was shipped.  Next, they said someone must have taken 1.  Of course, the box was sealed, but more importantly, the shipped weight matched the weight of only 1 item.

I couldn't resist asking uf they were going to tell me that the scale was off.  I thought the person was joking when he replied that that was the only explanation.  Apparently not.  No, that isn't the ONLY explanation.  I guess I'll require a full refund...since the scale is off.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 11, 2019, 08:39:26 pm
This is a bit much.  A bottle of vitamins smaller than a 32-oz drink, and a package about the size of my fist were ordered.  They arrived in larger boxes:


Note my Fiero in the background for relative size.
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: Fierofool on September 11, 2019, 10:15:29 pm
Amazon recently announced that they were going to be using smaller packaging to reduce waste.  Aren't you glad they did? 
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 11, 2019, 10:18:29 pm
The boxes used to be slightly larger than a shoe box.  I guess amazon has a different definition of "smaller".
Title: Re: Amazon!
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 24, 2019, 07:56:20 am
I ordered some spray bottles.  Basically, quantity 2.  One bottle arrived more than a week ago.  The other showed shipped, moved around a bit, then showed not shipped.  About the time I received the first bottle (late), the I received a notice on the second that there was a shipping delay.  Since then, I have received several updates, each pushing the delivery date further back.  The latest updated stated, "Good news!  Your product should arrive shortly after the new year!"

I cancelled that one.  The seller rather angrily messaged me that they were doing their part, and that it's too late for me to cancel my order.  I responded that it isn't too late for me to cancel my payment.  So, Amazon says I must wait until after the adjusted delivery date next year.  Nope.  Payment cancelled.