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Title: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: FieroGT86 on June 03, 2015, 09:58:25 am
Make: Pontiac
Model: Fiero
Year: 1986
Color: Red
Transmission: Automatic
Miles: 142000
Exhaust: Upgraded, sounds nice.

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VINontiac Fiero GT
: 1G2PG9793GP263205

1986 P
Engine: 2.8-liter V6
Body: fastback (GM body type 97)
Number 63205 of 83974 built in 1986
(Used vin decoder on this site, nice, thanks!)
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If you want specific pictures give me a hour or so to upload, or stop by,its parked in the back, but im here for most of the day. mon-sat.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on June 03, 2015, 02:17:16 pm
I was there earlier this morning but didn't drive around back.  I didn't see it up front so I came on home without going inside.  Got to be back down there tomorrow, so I may stop by. 
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: FieroGT86 on June 04, 2015, 10:40:00 am
No worries, I'm there most of the day.
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 28, 2017, 06:31:39 pm
This engraving is interesting:


I wonder what happened to this Fiero.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on September 28, 2017, 08:13:28 pm
OldOne owns it.  That's the one we went up to his house to do a tech day on last year.   
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 28, 2017, 08:21:51 pm
Lots of work done on it.  It's a nice, clean engine bay.
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Post by: Raydar on September 28, 2017, 09:36:51 pm
It's one of the more nicely detailed Fieros I've ever seen.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 28, 2017, 09:42:51 pm
Yeah...and look at that red hose coming out of the thermostat housing.  Tye MAP sensor looks nice, too.  The only thing that sticks out is the rusty coil.

What's up with that soft vacuum tube coming out of the EGR valve?
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on September 28, 2017, 11:52:18 pm
It has stainless vacuum lines.  Probably not Rodney's.  The set I have has a longer line.  Long enough to connect direct except on the 88.  There is a short extension for the 88.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: oldone on September 29, 2017, 03:25:40 am
this is my car although changed some since these photos were taken by someone. I have been trying to replace the altenater. I have taken every bolt out I can see or feel and still can`t get it out. its loose but won`t come out. I`m ready to give up, theres only so much I can do.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on September 29, 2017, 07:55:47 am
The only way to get it out is through the right wheel well, and then it still takes a lot of maneuvering.  It won't come out through the top or bottom.  Only the side.  The tie rod has to be taken loose and sometimes the alternator mount has to be loosened.  I remember Ashby working for about 4 hours to get Ray's alternator out, and Ashby was experienced. 
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: TopNotch on September 29, 2017, 07:56:01 am
Ed Parks left this advice on the old Fiero Factory website:
"Perhaps the best way for it is to sit the car on jackstands, take one end of the dogbone loose, and with a floor jack under the rear of the engine cradle, lower the back of the cradle by removing the 2 straight up engine cradle bolts. That will give enough clearance to take the alt out from the bottom.
Take negative battery cable off before starting alt removal."

I'm not sure where you'd put the jackstands, though. Just forward of the cradle is my guess.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 29, 2017, 08:06:26 am
It has stainless vacuum lines.  Probably not Rodney's.  The set I have has a longer line.  Long enough to connect direct except on the 88.  There is a short extension for the 88.

TFS also sells the vacuum lines.  There was another vendor.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 29, 2017, 08:07:09 am
this is my car although changed some since these photos were taken by someone. I have been trying to replace the altenater. I have taken every bolt out I can see or feel and still can`t get it out. its loose but won`t come out. I`m ready to give up, theres only so much I can do.

Maybe after you replace the alternator, you'll post some pics.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on September 29, 2017, 08:42:43 am
Ed Parks left this advice on the old Fiero Factory website:
"Perhaps the best way for it is to sit the car on jackstands, take one end of the dogbone loose, and with a floor jack under the rear of the engine cradle, lower the back of the cradle by removing the 2 straight up engine cradle bolts. That will give enough clearance to take the alt out from the bottom.
Take negative battery cable off before starting alt removal."

I'm not sure where you'd put the jackstands, though. Just forward of the cradle is my guess.

If you do this, be sure your floor jack is more controllable than mine.  When I begin to lower it, it drops quickly due to a sticky valve.  It needs to be fully controllable to drop slowly, or a second set of jack stands should be placed at the rear of the cradle and adjusted high enough to allow only a few inches drop of the rear of the cradle. 

With this method, would the struts need to be loosened at the top?
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Post by: Raydar on September 29, 2017, 12:08:27 pm
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With this method, would the struts need to be loosened at the top?

Although I've never done an alternator on anything but an 88, I don't think so.
I believe the struts will allow the cradle to drop enough to allow the alternator to slip out between the cradle and frame rail.

Someone actually posted (I think on FB) that they were able to get the V6 alternator out from the top. I asked how, but I don't recall seeing the follow-up.
I can't imagine how... 
But I read it on the internet, so it's gotta be true. Right?
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: Fierofool on September 29, 2017, 03:26:09 pm
It might be possible to get it out from the top if the cooling tube was removed.  I don't know how much room there is on an automatic what with the snout of the transmission coming midway of the engine. 
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Post by: TopNotch on September 29, 2017, 04:35:15 pm
I just thought of something. What if you removed the dog bone and replaced it with some kind of turnbuckle. Then you could force the engine towards the front of the car, and perhaps make enough room to remove the alternator from the top.
Title: Re: 1986 Fiero GT - Red - Automatic -
Post by: GTRS Fiero on September 29, 2017, 06:36:19 pm
How often do you replace the alternator on a given car?  Or would said turnbuckle go in the tools bin?