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All Things Fiero => General Fiero Discussion => Topic started by: GTRS Fiero on February 21, 2019, 06:19:45 pm

Title: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 21, 2019, 06:19:45 pm

I'm still looking for a new one.  I never heard back from Damper Doctors.  Anyone have any luck?

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: PK on February 22, 2019, 01:44:55 am

The only option seems to be one for a diff car and then remark the timing.

Fiero store do a new one.... But its not for Fiero and will need remark for timing.

Damper doctor... The entire communication from them after many attempts by both me and super Todd.... "Yes where you do can quo". Lolzio, I didn't cut the quote short. .. That was it. Haaa.  At least or made me laugh.

I have only managed to get a complete piece of junk one described as "new" so far....

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 22, 2019, 08:07:26 am

The TFS one is balanced.  I have an '88, so the damper should be neutrally balanced, unlike prior years.  I don't see how it could fit all V6's.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: Fierofool on February 22, 2019, 08:47:44 am

Michael, order one for a 93-95 3.4 from your local auto parts store or RockAuto.  It will also need to be remarked like the one from TFS. 

Rock Auto is out of stock for the 3.4 balancer, but they have the 94 Beretta 3.1 balancers, which may be the same.  AutoZone shows a Dorman for a 94 3.4 Camaro.   

Dorman Harmonic Balancer
Price: $58.99
★★★★★
Part Number: 594-147
Warranty: Limited Lifetime

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 22, 2019, 10:41:07 am

I don't need the timing mark.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: PK on February 22, 2019, 10:43:32 am

Quote from: GTRS Fiero on February 22, 2019, 08:07:26 am

  I have an '88, so the damper should be neutrally balanced, unlike prior years.

But is it?  http://www.gafiero.org/bbs/index.php?topic=3436.0

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: Fierofool on February 22, 2019, 12:03:56 pm

Getting a balancer for a 3.4 would likely assure that without worry, you have the correct balancer that would work on the 88 since both engines were internally balanced.  The 93-95 3.4's had no other pre-88 variant of the engine.  A new 3.4 balancer is what I have on my engine. 

Damper Doctor shows this for the 2.8 V6.   https://damperdoctor.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=65

You may look through the following pages to see if they have the 3.4 balancer but I see no need because you can get one from your local AutoZone.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 01:32:29 pm

I went to some parts stores.

O'Rielly's $65: can get in 2 days, but it looks very different
NAPA $62: can get in 1 week, looks different
AutoZone $62: can get in 1 day, looks different
Advance $58: can get in 1 day, looks different

While there, I looked for an adjustable TPS.  Nope.

MAP sensor, prices from $36 to $95.  Only Advance had it in stock, but no identifying msrks whatsoever on the part, even in the pics.

Looked for FPR, they only have a diaphragm.

Looked for clutch safety switch.  Nada.

Looked for thermal compound.  They tried to sell me dielectric grease.

I looked for some fittings.  Nope.

Looked for EVRV filter.  Nope.  Not even the solenoid itself, and most of the gaskets were wrong.

They did have a relay for which I was looking, but it was listed incorrectly.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 01:40:03 pm

Here is one look:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-oe-solutions-harmonic-balancer-594-147/15950007-p

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 01:40:57 pm

Here is another look:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-oe-solutions-harmonic-balancer-594-013/15950122-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=15950122-P&adtype=pla&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-8PjBRCWARIsADc18TIc3oYyJPkWwGLUz7E1YZrtcSS4uNiPiPafocpfV-iNu5KxEQSxE3IaAp-mEALw_wcB

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 01:42:40 pm

WCF sells one that is marked, but...WCF...

https://westcoastfiero.com/products/wcf-harmonic-balancer-for-60-degree-v6-28-31-and-34

Note that it does not have the piece that sticks out.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 02:07:00 pm

And this look:

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-594-008-Harmonic-Balancer/dp/B000C14FDA

Note the edge looks like it is a pulley.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 02:09:46 pm

And the TFS look.

https://www.fierostore.com/Product/Detail.aspx?s=65401

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: Fierofool on February 23, 2019, 03:01:33 pm

The last one from TFS appears to be correct.  The timing mark is on the correct side of the shaft keyway, for a Fiero.  Did you check with AutoZone?

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 03:10:00 pm

Yep.  See post above.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: PK on February 23, 2019, 04:24:44 pm

FF the Fiero store one is correct side but looks a fair way off to me.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 04:26:35 pm

They say you have to mark it.

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: Fierofool on February 23, 2019, 06:26:21 pm

Yeah, the mark should be about 7* counterclockwise of the keyway.  I think TFS may have used a stock photo. 

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on February 23, 2019, 06:30:39 pm

Wouldn't that be part of marking your own?

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 08, 2019, 06:57:17 am

So, is the harmonic balancer on the Fiero a pulley?

Title: Re: Harmonic balancer
Post by: Fierofool on March 08, 2019, 08:15:39 am

The Fiero balancer isn't a pulley.  The pulley bolts onto it.  The WCF balancer on the previous page appears to have the timing mark in the correct position.  I think the image shows the front side of the balancer, being the reason that the snout isn't visible.