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All Things Fiero => Tech Tips, Tech Questions => Topic started by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 05:49:02 pm

Title: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 05:49:02 pm
Mt 4T60 transmission shifts very well, except if I'm on it hard during the 1-2 shift.  It will not shift, unless I let off the throttle a bit.  The shift cable adjustment has been exhausted, with no change.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: TopNotch on October 23, 2020, 08:04:46 pm
How high did you let it rev while on it hard? It's normal for it to rev higher if you're on it hard.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 08:20:10 pm
Redline.  5,500.
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 08:50:23 pm
Actually, not redline.  Rev limiter.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 08:56:20 pm
Can recall if those have a governor or not but if so it can be stuck. Could have a valve sticking in the valve body. Sure you adjusted the cable the correct way?
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 08:58:40 pm
3 people tried, including Ryan Gick.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 09:01:03 pm
Have you tried yelling at it?

Try some Dr. Tranny (finish laughing) Lube Guard.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 09:04:56 pm
90% sure it has a governor. Should be in the tail housing. Pull it and check/clean it good. That flammable brake cleaner works great.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 09:05:33 pm
Well, there is no no shudder, but no, I have not.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 09:05:52 pm
90% sure it has a governor. Should be in the tail housing. Pull it and check/clean it good. That flammable brake cleaner works great.

Tail housing?  In English?
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 09:33:16 pm
90% sure it has a governor. Should be in the tail housing. Pull it and check/clean it good. That flammable brake cleaner works great.

Tail housing?  In English?
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 09:34:09 pm
Well, there is no no shudder, but no, I have not.

Not the shudder fix. ... see photo

Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 23, 2020, 09:36:43 pm
Over by the VSS?

Does the governor only affect first?
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on October 23, 2020, 09:45:18 pm
Yes by the VSS. It can affect all gears but problems at high RPM shifts can be it. Just think you don’t offer redline 2-3 or 3-4. Did you check the vacuum accumulator?

Watch this video. It’s painfully slow but will help.

https://youtu.be/i6PML78paMk
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 03, 2020, 05:16:51 pm
Trying to find the governor (or at least the part #)
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on November 03, 2020, 05:26:19 pm
Did you watch the video above? 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 03, 2020, 05:51:36 pm
Yes.  Maybe I missed the part about the governor.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on November 03, 2020, 06:09:38 pm
They don’t cover it well but basically you pull it out kind of like a distributor and clean it with break cleaner. They sometimes go bad. They normally have a little filter too.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 03, 2020, 06:11:18 pm
I want to replace it, and the filter.
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 03, 2020, 06:37:35 pm
I have how covered.  I do not know which part to order.  The filter seems to be the only thing that comes up.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on November 03, 2020, 06:43:16 pm
You will probably need to contact a local transmission parts supplier. I know they are available but apparently not online. You will need to remove it so you can get your gear colors and tooth count.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2020, 05:58:43 pm
Anyone know where to find the correct transmission seal for a 4T60?
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Post by: Fierofool on December 21, 2020, 06:43:08 pm
Have you tried TransStar?
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2020, 06:51:30 pm
I don't know which is the correct seal.
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Post by: Wreck It Ralph on December 21, 2020, 08:19:19 pm
You have the stock engine and transmission right? You should be able to just call TransStar like Charlie said. We’re the two you got not correct?

You might buy a complete seal kit. It will have every variation of seal.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2020, 08:37:23 pm
The axle seals fit fine.  Apparently, this is the pan seal.  I think that's what they said.  The GTRS has a 4-speed auto.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on December 21, 2020, 08:56:14 pm
https://cobratransmission.com/4t60-440-t4-bottom-pan-gasket-15146-1?gclid=CjwKCAiArIH_BRB2EiwALfbH1CxMPRM8hmmyN9CN1lzHzAPZI0FV6uEggRQpDCwdIVS8jNVE1BO5lxoCEwoQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2020, 09:06:43 pm
Thanks.  Ordered.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on December 21, 2020, 10:53:08 pm
Unless they were talking about the side pan....
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2020, 10:56:42 pm
Joy.  Dunno.  On the left side.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on December 22, 2020, 08:53:33 am
Can be. Depends on if you are upside down or not. 😂
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 22, 2020, 06:53:20 pm
We're cleaning off the transmission to be sure which seal.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on December 22, 2020, 09:35:49 pm
🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 22, 2020, 10:14:11 pm
Here, long on ice, short on cream.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 01, 2021, 08:34:39 am
If I do need the side gasket, which should I get?
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Post by: Wreck It Ralph on January 01, 2021, 12:01:16 pm
If I do need the side gasket, which should I get?

You will need both. One looks like a ring. The other is the shape of the side pan.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 01, 2021, 12:04:54 pm
Both?
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Post by: Wreck It Ralph on January 01, 2021, 12:27:09 pm
Yep
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 06, 2021, 07:01:47 pm
Since they're threatening snow, I went to see my Fiero.  My Fiero may be out for a while, because the trucks were spaying liquid salt all over the roads.  Looking at the gasket on the bottom pan, there appears to be a 1.5" section of gasket missing.  We ran the engine for 35 minutes on the lift, and no leaks showed.  The transmission is clean.  Rrrgh!  Maybe pressure is not developing, while in park.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on January 06, 2021, 11:18:51 pm
Bottom pan would be gravity leak. Once the fluid gets hot enough it’s as thin as water.
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Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 24, 2021, 10:28:06 am
The problem actually ended to being damage to the pan.  Some impact work resolved that.  The new gasket seems to be holding.
Title: Re: Transmission questions
Post by: GTRS Fiero on March 26, 2021, 06:23:01 pm
The axle seals fit fine.  Apparently, this is the pan seal.  I think that's what they said.  The GTRS has a 4-speed auto.

Or not.  The left axle seal failed, and apparently was slightly off in shape.  The inner side should be curved, rather than flat.