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Title: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Raydar on January 16, 2021, 03:58:57 pm
Now that I finally have a garage, I'm looking for the back portion of an 88 space frame. From the firewall back. Needs to include the firewall, hinge boxes, front and rear cradle mounting points, shock towers, and trunk wall. Hopefully, the trunk as well. I don't care about the battery box, as long as the structural metal is still there.
The only requirements are that the car is already completely disassembled, and that there is no structural rust. (Have sawzall will travel. :D )
Help with cutting and loading will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: scottb on January 16, 2021, 05:07:56 pm
Hmmmmmm......... I don't have one, but am wondering what you are planning to need a trial fit
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 16, 2021, 05:19:52 pm
No judgment here.  With being at home, sitting down, and COVID, it's time to up-size.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Raydar on January 16, 2021, 05:33:58 pm
Hmmmmmm......... I don't have one, but am wondering what you are planning to need a trial fit

Since both of mine are 88s, I'm just thinking that it would be cool to be able to build something on a cradle, and then slip an engine compartment over the assembly, and see what fits and what doesn't. Will be lots easier than fitting a cradle into a complete car, and then removing it again. That way, I'll be able to keep my cars running until I'm actually ready to do a swap.
It'll also work to mock up wiring harnesses, and such. (Not like I'm thinking about going into the harness business, or anything, but I am looking to do a 7730 in my 4.9 car.  I have some ideas in my head. But if it all actually works, I might consider doing something... useful?)
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 16, 2021, 05:35:56 pm
Would the '7730 be an improvement over whatever ECU/PCM you currently use?
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Fierofool on January 16, 2021, 05:58:33 pm
Paul has The Warrior Project.  It wasn't that badly burned.  Confined to the engine compartment and deck lid.  It even left the portion of the lid and wing over the trunk intact. 

As a whole unit, the car isn't salvageable at a reasonable cost.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 16, 2021, 06:00:59 pm
It'd be awesome for that frame to find a good home.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on January 16, 2021, 07:28:57 pm
What about Pats? He’s parting one out. I mean I was gonna ask for the cradle but I don’t have to have it.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: TopNotch on January 17, 2021, 10:03:23 am
I have a while 88 parts car, never burned in a fire. And I'd welcome a stripping and cutting party here to deal with it.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 17, 2021, 10:07:31 am
Would everything that wasn't taken go to the barn?
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Fierofool on January 17, 2021, 10:27:29 am
Cut the car midway, then when you're finished test fitting, reinstall the cradle and make a trailer by welding in a bottom in the engine bay.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on January 17, 2021, 10:33:30 am
A trailer for hauling engines?
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: mweldon on January 17, 2021, 10:52:20 am
TopNotch,

Does the 88 parts car you have still have a good title?  What is wrong with it mechanically?  Is that chassis restorable?  I spent a few moments crawling around it pulling the seats for NoMad and was impressed with its shape.

Before we go tearing up that chassis, my daughter is wanting to do a resto and drive a fiero as her 'second' car after a few years of driving my old suv around.  I have lots of parts (interior and engine) coming off my 88GT swap that could be used to bring it back to life.

Let me know your thoughts on this....
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Raydar on January 17, 2021, 11:21:05 am
TopNotch,

Does the 88 parts car you have still have a good title?  What is wrong with it mechanically?  Is that chassis restorable? 

Good thought. I certainly don't want to cut up a "viable" rust free 88.
Too bad I don't still have the wrecked Formula that I parted out, back at the turn of the century. :D



Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Raydar on January 17, 2021, 11:25:39 am
Would the '7730 be an improvement over whatever ECU/PCM you currently use?

Yes. Quite probably, in most ways.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Wreck It Ralph on January 17, 2021, 12:40:42 pm
TopNotch,

Does the 88 parts car you have still have a good title?  What is wrong with it mechanically?  Is that chassis restorable?  I spent a few moments crawling around it pulling the seats for NoMad and was impressed with its shape.

Before we go tearing up that chassis, my daughter is wanting to do a resto and drive a fiero as her 'second' car after a few years of driving my old suv around.  I have lots of parts (interior and engine) coming off my 88GT swap that could be used to bring it back to life.

Let me know your thoughts on this....

Mark,

I’ve got an 86 GT that has a few parts stripped off if your interest. Clean title. Engine removed. Not much missing that we can get easily.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Tha Driver on January 17, 2021, 06:01:47 pm
You're welcome to the rear clip of the warrior car if you want to organize a stripping party to pull the rear suspension/etc.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: TopNotch on January 17, 2021, 08:40:33 pm
TopNotch,

Does the 88 parts car you have still have a good title?  What is wrong with it mechanically?  Is that chassis restorable?  I spent a few moments crawling around it pulling the seats for NoMad and was impressed with its shape.

Before we go tearing up that chassis, my daughter is wanting to do a resto and drive a fiero as her 'second' car after a few years of driving my old suv around.  I have lots of parts (interior and engine) coming off my 88GT swap that could be used to bring it back to life.

Let me know your thoughts on this....
To be brought back to life, it would need engine, front bumper and bumper cover, headlight buckets, radiator, seats, instrument cluster, probably a steering column (although the one in might be fixable), various interior parts, wing, tail lights, rear brake calipers, and probably more.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: mweldon on January 17, 2021, 11:39:54 pm
TopNotch,

Does the 88 parts car you have still have a good title?  What is wrong with it mechanically?  Is that chassis restorable?  I spent a few moments crawling around it pulling the seats for NoMad and was impressed with its shape.

Before we go tearing up that chassis, my daughter is wanting to do a resto and drive a fiero as her 'second' car after a few years of driving my old suv around.  I have lots of parts (interior and engine) coming off my 88GT swap that could be used to bring it back to life.

Let me know your thoughts on this....
To be brought back to life, it would need engine, front bumper and bumper cover, headlight buckets, radiator, seats, instrument cluster, probably a steering column (although the one in might be fixable), various interior parts, wing, tail lights, rear brake calipers, and probably more.

I have most everything it needs oddly enough, except tail lights, "good" calipers, and bumper/cover....hmmm...

Let me ponder it for a few days.

Is the title clean?  What's the history of the car?

Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: TopNotch on January 18, 2021, 03:26:41 pm
Is the title clean?  What's the history of the car?
The title is clean. I bought the car from a neighbor for $500, who towed it over because it didn't run. i noticed that the fuel pump didn't run so I replaced it, and actually was able to drive the car around the block, but it ran poorly. The valve train made a lot of noise, and I found that the camshaft lobes were worn off. I started working on it, but the grandkid who was going to get it moved to Colorado, so I quit and made it a parts car. The partly disassembled engine is no doubt toast after being exposed to weather. The previous owner must have blown the transmission, because it has an Isuzu transmission in it.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: NoMad on January 22, 2021, 08:23:41 am
It will need a touch of machine work, but I do have that spare LQ1 around if you wanted to use that for her car Mark.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: TopNotch on January 22, 2021, 05:59:36 pm
BTW, before I stopped working on the car, I had bought a stock V6 camshaft and lifters. If anyone needs those, let me know. I have no use for them now.
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Raydar on January 22, 2021, 08:41:02 pm
You're welcome to the rear clip of the warrior car if you want to organize a stripping party to pull the rear suspension/etc.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)

Thanks, Paul.
I'm hoping that I can find one that's already been stripped. (You know what they say... "Wish in one hand... etc." :D )
How do the firewall and shock towers look, considering the fire, and etc.? I figured that any paint/coating that was there was burned off. Am I wrong? The engine compartment is really the only thing I'm interested in. Figured it would have caught the worst of the damage.
Thanks man!
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 05:33:11 pm
You're welcome to the rear clip of the warrior car if you want to organize a stripping party to pull the rear suspension/etc.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)

Thanks, Paul.
I'm hoping that I can find one that's already been stripped. (You know what they say... "Wish in one hand... etc." :D )
How do the firewall and shock towers look, considering the fire, and etc.? I figured that any paint/coating that was there was burned off. Am I wrong? The engine compartment is really the only thing I'm interested in. Figured it would have caught the worst of the damage.
Thanks man!

I removed a lot of leaves from it today. The trunk wall has a little surface rust, but nothing a little scuff & shoot with spray can rustoleum wouldn't preserve. It doesn't appear that the fire got past the insulation on the other surfaces.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Title: Re: Wanted: 88 space frame. Back 1/3.
Post by: Tha Driver on January 23, 2021, 09:29:59 pm
I just remembered I have another '88 (IIRC) that was a running car. It was t-boned in the right cowl - the rear clip should not be tweaked. It also still has the engine & cradle in it though, but it's stripped a little more than the warrior car.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Custom Fiberglass Parts