Georgia Fiero Club Forum
All Things Fiero => The Market => Topic started by: pgackerman on March 24, 2021, 10:29:02 am
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Not mine. Salvage title. Posted cuz this appears to have a lot of promise.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/778692249433055/ (https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/778692249433055/)
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It seems as if I saw that exact Fiero for sale somewhere else. The one I saw had the same body damage, but this Fiero sermed familiar before I got to those images.
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That's not really an unreasonable price, even with the damage, but being a Maryland car, I would certainly want a certified inspection for rust before venturing a purchase. The salvage title isn't really an issue in Georgia. A friend and former member just told me of an accident he had where he ran over an unmarked island in a left lane. They had converted the lane to a left turn only and the concrete island wasn't clearly marked. Instead of turning it into his insurance because the damage amount would have totaled the vehicle, he paid for the repair out of pocket. Just $2500. And it wasn't a Fiero, either.
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That's not really an unreasonable price, even with the damage, but being a Maryland car, I would certainly want a certified inspection for rust before venturing a purchase. The salvage title isn't really an issue in Georgia. A friend and former member just told me of an accident he had where he ran over an unmarked island in a left lane. They had converted the lane to a left turn only and the concrete island wasn't clearly marked. Instead of turning it into his insurance because the damage amount would have totaled the vehicle, he paid for the repair out of pocket. Just $2500. And it wasn't a Fiero, either.
Didn't notice Murderland anywhere in the description. Currently in Easley, SC.
The owner made an insurance claim, so this is a Salvage Title. The info I found is here: https://dor.georgia.gov/titles-rebuilt-or-restored-vehicles (https://dor.georgia.gov/titles-rebuilt-or-restored-vehicles)
Doesn't look that easy.
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I don't know where I saw Maryland. Must have been from one of the other ads I looked at on Marketplace.
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No title required in Ga for antique cars.
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What about Salvage Antique cars?
Do you know through experience that someone can take a Salvage Title from another State and put it on the road in Georgia just because it is an Antique vehicle?
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Unfortunately not personal experience but I will make a phone call now
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I'm interested in the answer.
Not sure if I'd be happy or sad with either response.
In one case someone could get a cool, old car to drive around that was totaled only because an insurance company didn't want to pay for repairs.
In the other case someone could get a cool, old car to drive around that was totaled and is a complete hazard to the driver and anyone close by.
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No title required in Ga for antique cars.
The definition of antique car varies by state. Usually 30 years, here.
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I'm interested in the answer.
Not sure if I'd be happy or sad with either response.
In one case someone could get a cool, old car to drive around that was totaled only because an insurance company didn't want to pay for repairs.
In the other case someone could get a cool, old car to drive around that was totaled and is a complete hazard to the driver and anyone close by.
Anyone who would buy this Fiero needs to inspect it carefully, first. Sometimes, getting a car with a salvage title legally back on the road is difficult. Here, the HP must inspect the vehicle. They can deny the request, and even crush the vehicle, just because they don't want to deal with it.
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According to our resident body man, Salvage titles CAN be converted to Rebuilt titles. Once all the structural work is completed, the car has to be taken to an inspector who will sign off on the integrity of the repairs. There may be a bit more to it than this, but that's it in a nutshell. Once the structural work is signed off, the cosmetics can be completed.
With that said, a rebuilder license is required, which he doesn't have.
He goes to abandoned/repo'd vehicle auctions, and buys cars to repair and sell, but avoids the salvage title cars.
Also... just because a car has a clear title doesn't always mean that it's capable of being made roadworthy. It may cost way more to fix than it's worth, or may require specialized skills. (John was about to bid on a "clear title" Porsche Cayman, until he realized that the structure that was tweaked was aluminum. Way more trouble than he wanted.)
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You are allowed to rebuild 2 cars per year without having a rebuilders license
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Sounds like a lot of work.
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So I have a definitive answer. In Georgia if you buy a car that’s an antique you only need a bill of sale. You do not have to do anything with the title unless you really want the headache. They said keep good records, get what title they have, copy of their license, bill of sale etc. that’s it. Now this may not be true any any other state but in GA that’s the rule.
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You could pick up a "running" '84 for $800, plus transportation. Needs tires and a tune-up.
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So I have a definitive answer. In Georgia if you buy a car that’s an antique you only need a bill of sale. You do not have to do anything with the title unless you really want the headache. They said keep good records, get what title they have, copy of their license, bill of sale etc. that’s it. Now this may not be true any any other state but in GA that’s the rule.
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How do they define "antique"?
The story that I heard from Don Hulse (Our former "club wrench", who also bought, sold, and parted a number of cars) was that '85 and newer cars required a title. Earlier cars were exempt. This was purely for logistical reasons. Seems the state of GA redesigned/replaced their computer system and retained records back to '85 model year. Prior to that were lost, or discarded.
Of course, it was quite a number of years ago when I heard this. Obviously things could have changed since then.
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25 years old or older. So 1996 or older.
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If that is the case, why did NopNotch need to get a title on his 3800 coupe?
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Can’t answer that. I spoke to the tag supervisor directly today.
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I believe Pat's problem in part was that there was a Georgia title, signed by the Executor of the Estate, which was his daughter, who lived in Florida. Something about one state wouldn't accept the other state's documents without police verification and other BS. Pat can clarify that. A title may not be needed, but you can still get one. I got one on the 85 I bought from a junk yard in Niota, TN, with a bill of sale that said Sold For Parts Only. Then there's my 86SE. I got a title on it and it was over 25 years old at the time. Not required, but I got one.
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Yes, Georgia will title for 85 and newer. On the silver 88 it was easy as I had a GA title from Pat. Streight to DMV with title and bill of sale. Two weeks later I got new title in the mail. If it is from a non title state and is 85 or newer you need a VIN inspection and a bill of sale. It's not a big deal the police just run the number to make sure not reported stolen. On the black 88 I had to do this. In theory I will eventually get a GA title but nearly a year later it is still under review. This is because somewhere out there is an open title from some state that that was never used to transfer the car once it was no longer required to do so in that or a different state. There is a transfer and registration chain to show every owner so its mine but their is a hold up. Pre 85 no issues like this, bill of sale only even if you have a title as they will not give you one to replace it but you will avoid the vin inspection. On the 56 and 47 we still have titles in our names from previous states but its registration at least for the 56 is in GA. Here is the issue with the black 88. I could sell the 56 on a bill of sale and still have the open title in my name my drawer. This is why one needs to keep copies of the bill of sale. My 40 is a hodgepodge of parts from dozens of cars. I have yet to get it in my name as it's not vin inspectable in pieces.
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I have the title for the 86 GT if anyone wants a good shell.
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I have always obtained titles for my vehicles, but the oldest was a '78, IIRC.