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All Things Fiero => The Market => Topic started by: pgackerman on October 20, 2017, 08:49:31 pm

Title: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: pgackerman on October 20, 2017, 08:49:31 pm

Not mine: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/d/1985-fiero/6348937637.html (https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/d/1985-fiero/6348937637.html)


I am 75 years old and I am going to sell my Fiero and let some body else have fun with it.
I have had the car for a number of years and have done many modification to make is fun, reliable car. Some of the changes include.
It has a 1991 Cadillac 4.6 engine and 4t60e 4 speed automatic trans with overdrive.
I replaced the brakes with s10 power brake booster and ventilated front rotors. New rotors and Calipers all the way round.
I have added Saturn electric power steering, if you have driven a Fiero you know that is a major positive change.
I have changed the power window motors and the electric head light doors
The air conditioner has been completely rebuilt . It blows very COLD
It has an aluminum radiator with a high volume electric fan.
I recently had the entire car painted.
It is a great car and is for sale for less than the price of the modification.
Call if you are interested in it.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 20, 2017, 10:31:08 pm
The ad says "4.6 Cadillac". It's a 4.9, though.  The 4.6 was a Northstar, which this is not.
It still looks nice.

It really surprises me. All of these "Atlanta / North GA area" Fieros that I have never seen before. But I guess that not everyone is on here or on Pennocks.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Roger on October 21, 2017, 06:42:17 am
Saturn electric power steering?
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 21, 2017, 08:40:54 am
Probably the VUE.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Fierofool on October 21, 2017, 08:42:22 am
Some say that Saturn EPS is very close to what the Fiero EPS was, in size and design. 
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: GTRS Fiero on October 21, 2017, 09:14:37 am
As I think on it, Saturn inherited a lot from the Fiero.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 21, 2017, 10:27:46 am
Some say that Saturn EPS is very close to what the Fiero EPS was, in size and design.

The Saturn EPS units - at least the ones that I've seen - were mounted on the column, under the dash.
It still drives a regular rack and pinion. The Fiero system used a hydraulic (conventional) power steering rack. with an external pump.
More like the F-body and Corvette power racks that people are retrofitting.
The advantage of the conventional PS rack is the faster ratios that are available. The Saturn system retains the "slower" Fiero ratios. Still a sweet setup, though.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Fierofool on October 21, 2017, 10:44:24 am
I thought the early Saturn systems were conventional.  I don't always remember what I read.  I think Scott is doing the one mounted on the column. 
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: scottb on October 21, 2017, 04:58:49 pm
Yes, I am going to attempt to put a Saturn Vue power EPS in my car. I have the mechanical parts but lack the electrical controller. This may get put at the bottom of the priority list as we are closing on a house next week and the honey do list is already 10000 miles long.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: pgackerman on October 23, 2017, 10:06:00 am

Did some wiki-ing.  Did a '91 4.9V8 only produced 200HP?

Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Fierofool on October 23, 2017, 10:47:11 am
Yes.  But it's a very torquey engine.  Some say that's the reason they went with 3800's.  Melanie's Grand Prix had the 3800NA at 210 hp but one thing it didn't have was that V8 sound. 
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 23, 2017, 11:56:07 am

Did some wiki-ing.  Did a '91 4.9V8 only produced 200HP?

Yup. 200 HP and 275 lb.ft.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: pgackerman on October 23, 2017, 02:14:21 pm

Still think I'd go with a modern 4-banger producing 200+ HP with a lot less weight, more room in the engine bay, and better mileage.

Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: oldone on October 26, 2017, 05:12:40 pm
hey raydar do you remember driving this car a few years back right after the guy got it. he says you drove it just after he got it at one of our meetings. he says it looked different then had a wing and some other stuff on it and he said when you got back you ran into a concrete block or parking space stop or something and cracked the front valance or something?
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: oldone on October 26, 2017, 05:20:55 pm
in response to pgackerman what modern 4-banger producing 200 +hp and a lot less weight more room in the engine bay and better mileage would you suggest and how hard would the swap be?
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 26, 2017, 11:40:26 pm
hey raydar do you remember driving this car a few years back right after the guy got it. he says you drove it just after he got it at one of our meetings. he says it looked different then had a wing and some other stuff on it and he said when you got back you ran into a concrete block or parking space stop or something and cracked the front valance or something?

Can't say that I do. Other than my car, I have driven only a few 4.9s. Those would be Ed Parks "demo" car, and Ronnie's 88 GT T-top.
I try to not drive other peoples' cars, for the reason you mentioned. Sh!t happens. I don't want to break stuff.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, but if it did, I don't remember. I wonder what it looked like, then? Same engine? Got me wondering...
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 26, 2017, 11:59:25 pm
in response to pgackerman what modern 4-banger producing 200 +hp and a lot less weight more room in the engine bay and better mileage would you suggest and how hard would the swap be?

The largest non-boosted Ecotec 4 cylinder (2.4 L) makes almost 180 HP in stock form. (30-40 HP more than a stock V6)
With a good header and intake, people are "claiming" ~200 hp.
Boosted, they're making in excess of 300. Waaay in excess.

Swaps are not really simple. Require a bunch of ECM "tweaking" or an (expensive) aftermarket ECM.
There are people selling mounting brackets, however.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: oldone on October 27, 2017, 08:00:47 am
I met the guy up in jasper yesterday and drove the car. he insisted that he met you at the galaxy and you drove his car. I think he has had the car for five or six years so it could have been that long ago. the motor was in it when he bought it. he`s done a lot of stuff to it. I didn`t care to much for the power steering, couldn`t really get a feel for the road although it was nice for parking. it has a fan built into the rear deck that sucks out the heat and sends it out the rear scoop. the rear vents are blocked off.   
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 27, 2017, 11:34:01 am
I met the guy up in jasper yesterday and drove the car. he insisted that he met you at the galaxy and you drove his car...

Oh well. If you say so.
If you talk with him again, please tell him I said sorry about the bumper - if I scraped it.
(Does Galaxy have parking blocks?)
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Fierofool on October 27, 2017, 03:08:37 pm
Just curbs and the center walkway.  Maybe some stop blocks at the rear parking lot. 
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: oldone on October 27, 2017, 05:34:15 pm
I don`t know it just doesn`t sound like you to bump a fiero into something. I think he must have you mixed up with someone else.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 27, 2017, 10:00:16 pm
I dunno. I drove my Silverado slap over a stop block, a couple of weeks ago, so it's not unprecedented.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: TopNotch on October 27, 2017, 10:42:19 pm
I dunno. I drove my Silverado slap over a stop block, a couple of weeks ago, so it's not unprecedented.

A truck can take it. One time I drove my truck over a curb to get out of a parking lot when the proper way out was jammed with slow cars.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: Raydar on October 28, 2017, 12:27:04 am
A truck can take it.

True. But if you weren't planning on doing it, it still makes you feel like a doofus.
Title: Re: 1985 Fiero - $6500 (Jasper) V8, power steering, new paint...
Post by: pgackerman on November 05, 2017, 04:18:19 pm
in response to pgackerman what modern 4-banger producing 200 +hp and a lot less weight more room in the engine bay and better mileage would you suggest and how hard would the swap be?

My apologies for the late reply.  I've been out of internet...

The Ecotecs look like they can produce over 200HP as well as some of the Toyota 4-bangers.  The ideal would be a Subaru boxer. 
The Ecotec would probably be the easiest swap and the Subes would be the hardest; but that's just a guess.