Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 12, 2017, 10:00:08 am
I have several sets of '86 owner's manuals, a service manual, 2 DIY books, a maintenance schedule, a supplemental book, and an owner's manual update book.
Where is the rest of that stuff for the '88?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 12, 2017, 05:59:38 pm
Post by: Fierofool on November 12, 2017, 06:40:04 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 13, 2017, 08:00:18 am
3 Light Sequential Turn Signal Control-New
1 Gray Performance Sound Control
1 Beechwood Performance Sound Control
1 Underdash Performance Sound Wiring Harness
1 VGC Beechwood Auxiliary Gauge Pod with Harness
1 Fiero Blvd Heavy Aluminum Street Sign
1 Hot Wheel Pavement Pounder Car Carrier with Fiero. Unopened
1 American Graffiti 1985 Fiero GT by Motor Max
1 Pair Tyco Slot Cars
1 I Love My Fiero GT Button
1 Gold Fiero Nose Emblem New But Blemished
1 Gold Embroidered Fiero Patch
1 Fiero Parking Only Heavy Steel Sign
1 1:18 Road Collection Fiero GT Unopened
1 88 Pontiac Product Book Fleet Edition Ring Binder with inserts. Excellent
1 88 Fiero Owners Manual. 8 of 10 Quality.
1 84 Fiero Owners Manual and Maintenance Schedule. Slight Cover Blemishes
1 Set of 1995 Fiero Store Product Brochures with Price List.
1 Set of 3 Fiero Owner Magazine, First, Second and Third, Fourth Quarter.VGC
1 Fiero Connection Magazine Featuring Mariana Martin’s White Horse. VGC
1 Hot Rod Magazine March ’84 Featuring 140 MPH Fiero. New In Sealed Wrapper
1 Brookland’s Road Test Magazine ’84-88 Fiero. Sealed. Excellent
1 Pontiac Road Cars Magazine, 1988 Edition. Sealed. Excellent
1 Gary Witzenburg Fiero Pontiac’s Mid-Engine Sports Car. Sealed
I didn't see a supplemental, or a DIY, or an owner's manual update book. I suspect that the owner's manual update was only for previous years, probably something to do with the recall. I traded a full set. I don't foresee having another '86, but I think those were hard to find.
Post by: GTXVette on November 13, 2017, 08:32:10 am
I will accept any Fiero Manuals that are Extra's that are Not Needed by the current Owners, The more detailed the better so an owners manual would not be as Important to me as a Service Manual. I will pay for a Manual If that Helps Early modles + an 88 would be Nice
I sent 'tech' a Pm That I can Help. Helping a Buddy from School with his 71 Road runner up in Talking Rock now as the weather Permits( It's in a Building But no weather Proofing,But does have a lift.)
Post by: Fierofool on November 13, 2017, 08:41:12 am
http://www.fieronews.net/fusion/downloads.php
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 13, 2017, 10:35:48 am
This comes in the thick version, like this, and in a 2-part version, and in a condensed version, as seen in another pic.
Of course, there are also the Spotter's Guide, and Gary W.'s book. There is also an '85-'87 book. It's a thin little thing.
Post by: Fierofool on November 13, 2017, 11:06:55 am
The Haynes and Chilton's books were once readily available at the auto parts stores, but I've not seen any on the shelf in several years. Usually the only place to find them is on Ebay or Amazon.
I have a full set of the 86 and 87 books that come with the cars. I did have a full set of 85 and 86 books, too, but I included the with cars that I sold.
The picture of the red car with that strange decklid is interesting.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 13, 2017, 05:19:14 pm
Post by: Fierofool on November 13, 2017, 05:36:43 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 13, 2017, 05:58:40 pm
Post by: Tha Driver on November 13, 2017, 06:53:12 pm
1 Pair Tyco Slot Cars
There were slot cars? Who has these, & do they need a track to run them on? ;-)
I haven't gotten the track down in a long time, but once the VW is out of the shop I'd love to get back to running some laps.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Post by: Tha Driver on November 13, 2017, 06:55:06 pm
Man, what I wouldn't give for a '71 Roadrunner! But I'm broke...but I do have the Indy parade lap car... ;D
I sent 'tech' a Pm That I can Help. Helping a Buddy from School with his 71 Road runner up in Talking Rock now as the weather Permits( It's in a Building But no weather Proofing,But does have a lift.)
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Post by: Fierofool on November 13, 2017, 07:54:26 pm
Post by: GTXVette on November 13, 2017, 08:37:24 pm
Paul that's the kind of cars I enjoy working On, and GTRS what a Great Collection of Books. I Invited Ya'll to come to Larry's House for the Coffee and Donuts thing he does but for Now Season Is over Maybe Next Spring then I can show you All the cars I keep up.
Post by: Tha Driver on November 14, 2017, 01:00:39 am
We raffled a pair of Tyco slots at RFTH. They're about the size of Matchbox or Hot Wheels cars and they do need a track. I believe they have a double contact for power and the slot pin is only for keeping it on the track. There was a red one and a black one.
LOL! I know the cars need a track, I was asking if the new owner needed one or a place to run them...
Crap: I was going to post a photo of my track but the image is too large.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"
Custom Fiberglass Parts (http://angelonearth.net/customfiberglass/)
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 14, 2017, 06:17:25 am
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 15, 2017, 02:54:24 pm
The big thick ones are the factory service manuals, commonly referred to as Helms Manuals.
If the thick one is the Helms, what are the 2 thinner ones, and the single thinner one?
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 17, 2017, 05:54:00 pm
This is the holder. Odd that none of the greys match.
Here is the Owner's Manual in the holder.
It could be in better condition.
Here is the maintenance schedule
There are a few cards. I have the sales paperwork, and may have the salesman's card somewhere.
Post by: Fierofool on November 17, 2017, 06:21:57 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 17, 2017, 06:41:58 pm
The manual in the top pic should be the same as the similar one in the bottom pic, but the top one is much thicker (about half an inch). If you get a reprint of the Helms manual, they split it into two. I don't have them, so don't know how thick they are.
I'm missing the '88 Fiero Product book, the '88 Fiero color chart, the '88 Fiero DIY manual, and whatever supplementals. I like to have all the stuff.
Somewhere, I have some various Hot Rod and things magazines with Fiero articles. Those are probably in the library.
Post by: Roger on November 17, 2017, 07:57:07 pm
Post by: f85gtron on November 18, 2017, 07:50:16 am
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 18, 2017, 08:38:26 am
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 04, 2017, 07:15:11 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 05, 2017, 06:21:53 pm
I have the revised 1984 Fiero maintenance schedule, but it's much larger than the maintenance schedules for 1986 and 1988. Was that normal for 1984?
Anyone seen the Clymer Fiero manual?
Post by: Raydar on December 05, 2017, 08:43:36 pm
Tyco cars in their own thread, please. Send me the image, and I'll post it.
http://www.gafiero.org/bbs/index.php?topic=2972.0
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 07, 2017, 07:02:40 pm
I have the electronic version of the 22P from Fierofool, but sometimes it's nice to have one in your hands. These are about ready to return to dust, so probably only for use when the wind isn't blowing.
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2017, 06:09:42 pm
Post by: Fierofool on December 21, 2017, 07:20:57 pm
Post by: GTRS Fiero on December 21, 2017, 07:47:51 pm
Post by: Fierofool on December 21, 2017, 11:08:57 pm
https://nemiga.com/cat_spares/epc/pontiac/22p-p/
Post by: GTRS Fiero on November 19, 2018, 11:06:02 pm
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/epc/pontiac/22p-p/
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 14, 2019, 05:45:45 pm
Post by: Donster on April 16, 2019, 12:57:39 am
Next to impossible to get over here.
Does anybody have an 88 SM they would be willing to sell.
I'm sure that alone the possesion of such a manual would reduce the questions I post here on the message board!
;D
\D
Post by: GTRS Fiero on April 16, 2019, 08:04:22 am
There are some helpful parts, but they omitted a lot of stuff.
Post by: Donster on April 17, 2019, 02:23:16 am
Was there a big difference between the 87 & 88 Dukes?
It just so happens, I could get an almost pristine 87 SM here in Germany for under €40.
Is it worth it?
Post by: Raydar on April 17, 2019, 07:34:25 am
Question:
Was there a big difference between the 87 & 88 Dukes?
It just so happens, I could get an almost pristine 87 SM here in Germany for under €40.
Is it worth it?
The only real difference is the oil filter and pump assembly. The 88 incorporates a "force balancer" - basically a set of counterweights on the oil pump shaft - and the oil filter is a bare cartridge that resides inside the pan. Is removed by unthreading the huge plug in the bottom of the pan.
All the electronics and sensors should be the same.
Of course, there are the 88 brake and suspension changes.
Post by: TopNotch on April 17, 2019, 10:53:25 am
The only real difference is the oil filter and pump assembly. The 88 incorporates a "force balancer" - basically a set of counterweights on the oil pump shaft - and the oil filter is a bare cartridge that resides inside the pan. Is removed by unthreading the huge plug in the bottom of the pan.Makes changing the oil lots of fun -- NOT!
Actually there is one other difference between the 87 and 88 duke -- where the heater hose connects to the intake manifold. On the 87, it's over the coil pack assembly, so if it leaks, water gets on the coil packs. It was moved to the other side for 88.