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Author Topic: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23  (Read 21298 times)

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2018, 08:19:25 pm »
I had to let the dogs out and feed the cat, so I'm a little late. 

Weather was variable from light sprinkles to some heavy rain, but the majority of the day was without rain and with a lot of sun.  Just as I was getting out of the car and gathering everything up to bring inside, there was a big bolt of lightning and loud clap of thunder close by.  A reminder from above of what we could have had.  Today was good. 

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2018, 09:14:01 pm »
Some pictures from our trial run....




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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2018, 09:47:00 pm »
Nice!  What are ghose side scoops on Sarge's car?

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2018, 07:58:37 am »
Fierofool, since I'm guessing the Formula is a 2.8, how did it compare, in handling and power, to your '87?

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2018, 09:10:07 am »
Being someone else's car and also being unfamiliar with it, I didn't push as hard as I would have had I been in the 87.  I have an 86 with 2.8 but it's a 5-speed.  The Formula is an automatic.  There is a definite difference in a 3.4 and a 2.8, whether it be a manual or an automatic. 

Sometimes, I had to manually shift it into 2nd going up some of the inclines.  It didn't want to do it on it's own.  I don't know if it was the elevations having effect on it, since we were often between 3000 and 5000 feet with extended climbs of over a mile. 

Handling in curves was very good once I began to get comfortable with the car but again, I went into curves smoothly.  With the 87, I don't mind whipping it into a curve.  Without the ability to gear down through multiple gears, I sometimes ran in 2nd so I could use the engine braking and also to apply power as I entered turns. 

Pat has slotted or cross-drilled rotors and maybe some upgraded pads on the car.  Initially, I thought there was a problem with the brakes due to the low frequency grinding or rumbling noise when the brakes were applied.  At a stop, we were talking about brakes (Scott had some brake fade) and I asked Pat if he had cross-drilled rotors, to which he said "Yes". 
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2018, 09:24:11 am »
I'm glad it went well.
I was watching the news this AM, and they were talking about a woman who died in a mudslide, in NC, due to all the rain.

My 2.8 automatic Formula (before I did all the work) was unimpressive up in the mountains, climbing hills. I also wondered if it had to do with the altitude.
I ended up running its last unmodded RFTH mostly in 2nd gear.

Sarge's car looks amazing! First time I've ever seen it. 
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2018, 10:03:00 am »
My 88 duke (although modified, it's still a duke), isn't exactly a powerhouse, but it doesn't seem to mind altitude, and performance was the same throughout the run.
I ran the dragon mostly in 2nd gear (5-speed Isuzu), with the engine screaming at up to 5000 RPM. Before my mods, it would start to fall off at 4500 RPM.

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2018, 10:28:46 am »
5000 RPM!  I'm sure the stock duke would not like that!

The '88 duke has DIS, so it should adjust for the altitude, where the 2.8 with HEI will not.

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2018, 02:30:32 pm »
Olejoedad told me that they stop when they get up at higher altitudes, disconnect the ECM connection near the battery for about 30 seconds, then plug it in again.  The ECM then recalibrates the sensor information for the higher altitudes and the performance returns. 
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2018, 03:27:04 pm »
A great drive with fantastic roads ( thank you Charlie ) no car trouble, we all made it home safely and lunch with friends. I can't wait to go back in September.


Side scoops are off of a Trans Am front fender
the car is best viewed from 50' away hopefully I'll have all the trim back on before the next meeting but it was great to drive it in the twists and turns a first for the car and me.

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2018, 03:52:59 pm »
I know you're thrilled to have it home, back together, and driving. Congrats!
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #56 on: May 20, 2018, 05:01:59 pm »
Your car is much nicer than mine.  Mine looks great from 500 yards away.  Glad yours is running great again.

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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2018, 02:56:06 pm »
We were comparing MPG during the run, so afterwards, I decided to try to get pure highway MPG. We had topped off in Clayton (just  under the NC border), and I topped off again when I got off the highway near home. I got 33 MPG. Not bad for a 30 year old car. This was with the occasional stop light on US-23, AC on all the time, and doing 80 once US-23 changed to I-985 (mainly because nearly everyone else was doing 80).
Result: I think I'll keep this car.
Edit: for you folks outside the US, that's 14 kilometers per liter, and I was doing abut 129KPH on I-985.
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2018, 07:06:54 pm »
This was with Buzz?
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Re: Scouting Trip, RFTH 23
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2018, 10:47:58 pm »
A few more shots provided by Scott.

The dam where Harrison Ford supposedly took his dive in The Fugitive.


The view from the top.


A moment to relax on a stretch of straight road.
There are three kinds of men:

1.    The ones that learn by reading.
2.    The few who learn by observation.
3.    The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.    Will Rogers