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General Fiero Discussion / Re: A New Formula In Our Stall
« Last post by TopNotch on June 25, 2017, 11:17:58 PM »
The series III engines were "fly-by-wire", which is why many used series II throttle bodies. There's no direct connection between the gas pedal and the throttle body on a series III engine.
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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Re: Air intake boot
« Last post by Raydar on June 25, 2017, 10:44:29 PM »
I have actually seen three different boots.
The original (pre-recall) had an odd "jog" in it. It seemed to be part hard plastic and part rubber. They are few and far between, right now.
The most common (post-recall) is one piece, rubber, and has a nipple for the PVC vent pipe, just before the throttle body.
The third type is (apparently) the least common. It's one piece, rubber, and looks just like the recall piece, but does NOT have the nipple for the PVC pipe. I have seen exactly one of these. I have no idea why it even existed, unless it was actually for some other car. (80s TransAms used the same air filter canister, so there is that...)

Edit - I had an Isuzu in my 3.4 car, for a while. Yeah... the cables are *right* where the boot wants to be. I think I ran my cables "over", but it's been a while. Ended up doing a cone type filter and building a rain shield for it. May still have all the pieces around.
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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Re: Air intake boot
« Last post by MikeMac on June 25, 2017, 09:52:52 PM »
I will check in the morning but I believe the shift cables are routed under the snorkle/ boot. Running the cables over the snorkle definitely looks easier.
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General Fiero Discussion / Re: A New Formula In Our Stall
« Last post by Fierofool on June 25, 2017, 09:47:13 PM »
At least the throttle bodies were changed over the years.  For that reason, some have installed earlier year throttle bodies onto the Series III engines.  I think it has something to do with the TPS or MAF sensor. 

Pat, I have the Helms Manual that Lee used to do the install if you want to come get it.  I think it has detailed notes of his wiring pinouts. 

If you will pull the wheels from the Formula, I have ordered some used tires for it.  I can have them mounted when they come in, and you can also carry the replacement hood back with you. 
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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Re: Air intake boot
« Last post by Fierofool on June 25, 2017, 09:27:40 PM »
I have seen some Pennocks people route their cables underneath the intake snorkle, but that puts a lot of bend on the cables at the metal ferule on the end.  This is the routing I found best for the two 85's I had Isuzus installed in. 



Just be sure you have enough slack that the cables don't interfere with the throttle cable.








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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Re: Air intake boot
« Last post by Fierofool on June 25, 2017, 09:14:47 PM »
They are all the same. 85-88.  There must be a line from the hole to the valve cover for crankcase rebreathing.  They all get old and shed black on anything they touch.  Mike, we have several in the barn.
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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Re: Air intake boot
« Last post by GTRS Fiero on June 25, 2017, 09:07:46 PM »
The intake hoses are not the same.  On an '86, there is a hole in the back where a pipe connected.  Mine no longer had the pipe, and the hole had been taped up.  On my '88, there is no such hole, and the hose was a tight fit.

I've not found a replacement, but would sure like to find one.  Mi intake hose has lost its lustre.
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Tech Tips, Tech Questions / Air intake boot
« Last post by MikeMac on June 25, 2017, 09:00:31 PM »
I have a question about the V6 intake boot. I'm referring to the one between the air filter can and the throttle body. I borrowed the boot off the fastback formula so I could crank and run the Hulse coupe. The boot that was on the Hulse car had been taped up with duct tape, so I didn't trust it. The boot is a very tight fit on the Hulse coupe, being quite the struggle to fit it between the 2 points mainly because of the Isuzu shifter cables being in the way. Are all the boots the same? The fastback formula I borrowed from is a 88 with a Getrag trans and the Hulse coupe is a 86 with the Isuzu. Does anyone sell the boot new?

Thanks
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The Market / Re: F23 trans and adaptor kit by thelin $450
« Last post by fierojsr on June 25, 2017, 09:00:31 PM »
No problem.
My search continues.
Have a great day
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The Market / Re: F23 trans and adaptor kit by thelin $450
« Last post by f85gtron on June 25, 2017, 08:42:35 PM »
Sorry, it's been purposed already.
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