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Overheat?
« on: September 10, 2020, 04:34:43 pm »
Here are the facts:
1.  The temp gauge intermittently reads hot, sometimes to the red
2.  The indicated temp can read hot while driving at speed, or while slow/stopped, but usually is a slow/stopped thing
3.  The temp gauge has been calibrated, and is believed to be correct
4.  When the temp is reading high on the gauge, the temp on the sensor frame does read high, using the laser thermometer
5.  No change, with the shield installed or not
6.  No change, with the thermostat installed or not, although different thermostats have been tested
7.  The CTS reads 188 or 189 (laser thermometer and ECU), even when the gauge reads hot
8.  The coolant fan does come on on occasion
9.  The temp gauge sometimes jumps around, sometimes as much as 3 tic marks
10.  The coolant system has been flushed and burped 3 times, with no change

Other relevant facts:
1.  No temp issues, prior to swap
2.  The radiator and coolant hoses have been replaced, still no change
3.  The car can sometimes be driven for hours, with the temp staying normal

Any ideas?

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2020, 06:05:27 pm »
No mention of the water pump in the above, so I have to ask -- Do you know what kind of impeller it has?
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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2020, 06:30:02 pm »
Good question.  I have been thinking about that.  The pump I left to be installed, back in 2016, had a metal impeller.  Lots of my parts that I had bought and left to be installed somehow vanished.  No, I don't know.  The water pump was replaced.  That I do know.

Are these symptoms of an impeller that isn't turning?

I did not want to mention the water pump, because that could be leading...

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2020, 07:00:31 pm »
Are these symptoms of an impeller that isn't turning?
I've never had a plastic impeller, so I'm not sure. They say it works when the pump is cold and starts slipping when it warms up.
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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2020, 07:01:23 pm »
This one is just random, for the most part.

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2020, 07:03:43 pm »
I'm wondering if it still has air trapped somewhere...... did you drill a small hole in the thermostat?

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2020, 07:05:19 pm »
No, but I did run about 150 miles, without the thermostat.

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2020, 07:46:47 pm »
No, but I did run about 150 miles, without the thermostat.

Was it still showing hot?

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2020, 07:52:26 pm »
Randomly, yes.  Mostly, it ran cold.

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2020, 07:55:30 pm »
I've been saying it's a 195-degree thermostat, but it's a 180-degree thermostat.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2020, 09:01:08 pm by GTRS Fiero »

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2020, 08:59:21 pm »
I am not an expert mek-a-nick but if it is not an air bubble it very well could be the waterpump impeller slipping on the shaft

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2020, 09:01:48 pm »
 >:(

Just what I need.

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2020, 09:28:28 pm »
How can I test if the impeller is slipping, without remiving the water pump?

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2020, 06:48:54 pm »
I guess that answer says it all.  Pulling the water pump.  The owner of the space where my Fiero  is is losing his patience.  He wants my Fiero out of there.  Me, too.

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Re: Overheat?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2020, 01:54:58 am »
In the coolant path, where is the CTS, in relation to the temp sensor?  Does the coolant come through the engine, through the temp sensor, then through more engine, through the CTS, and out the thermostat housing?